Next step after learning the nail delay

What comes after the nail delay?
I started playing not so long ago but my (counter) nail delay is pretty good already. So what should be the next trick to learn? I thought of the under the leg nail delay hold. Any comments or recommendations?
Thanks in advance, Jan

4 Replies to “Next step after learning the nail delay”

  1. One thing to do is learn the other spin as soon as possible. Try not to let one spin be dominant. It will pay off in the long run.
    Paul Kenny

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  2. Jan,
    Here are two ideas you can try right away.
    –With the disc on delay, just drop it straight down and move your body into a position to catch it or re-delay (pull) it. This could be moving your leg over the disc for an under the leg (utl) catch or pull, or bending your knees with a bit of body turn to catch or pull a ‘chair.’ (Later, with the other arm/hand maybe you can develop these into a gitis or phlaud, but that’s later.)
    –With the delay on, try to pass the disc around your back. It’s ok if it slides on your nail to the rim. You’ll find one way around your body much easier, I think, than the other. Once it’s around in front of you again maybe put the delay back to the middle and keep jammin’ or catch it! Hurray!
    John Titcomb


  3. Howdy Jan, Leak here. I’m learning to freestyle again after almost
    30 years away, and about 1 year along in my recovery from a stroke,
    so we’re kinda in the same boat, since I’m relearning most of it
    again. I’m almost back 100%from the stroke, so I’m doing great, in
    fact, I’m so good I’m obnoxious, or at least, even worse than
    I can only delay clock, and that has always limited me, but my
    brain was always wired that way, but hopefully now that might change.
    Don’t know yet cuz I haven’t been able to hook up and jam with
    anyone,& I can only throw myself Clock zzzz’s
    …………( I’m a totally omni-dexterous righty)
    So I’ll pass on to you the advise that I have to keep reminding myself of again & again. This will probably be more than you wanted
    but once I start Yakking now, I cant seem to stop, but you’re in
    luck, cuz you can always stop reading……ha ha
    First I’ll assume you stretch and prep yourself properly.
    Before you move on, from non-restricted "the" delays, onto the
    simpler "restricted" delays, such as the under the raised opposite
    leg from the inside to the outside. I think you should split your time between solidifying your delays in semi-restricted & or awkward
    positions, with both hands, in both palm up & towards you, and palm
    down & way from you positions. I would learn clock as well as you do
    counter. A majority of folks are righties, clock is the easiest to
    crank out zzzz’s on a nice backhand airbounce , so you’re gonna get
    a lot of clock. When I started throwing disc as an original Condor
    back in 75, nobody could throw me high rpm counter, without it zinging at me like an ultimate throw, so I only learned clock, and
    since I had that down I never bothered to get good at counter. I
    regret this, so I need to encourage you not to make the same mistake
    I did.
    Next,( and I bet you wish last), I would padiddle anything I can get my hands on that doesn’t break easily. Your discs, pillows, small carpets. You’ll be amazed what you can padiddle and break if
    you really put your mind to it…….ha ha
    Also as you’re practicing you delays, try dropping them as sets
    to simple restricted catches, with both hands, one at a time, under
    both legs, same side or opposite, from inner side to outer side, &
    vise versa, out side to inner side, do them all with both legs on the ground, or one foot and 1 knee, then do as many as you can with
    the catching arm side leg raised, the opposite side leg raised.
    All of this will build muscle memory, give your brain a chance
    to analyze whats needed to transition from each position to the next
    and you get used to balancing in these positions while your brain is occupied with something else which ain’t easy, at least not for
    Hope all this crap is of some use to you,& hope to jam with ya soon.
    Where are you located? Find someone who can throw you massive zzz’s. It is so much easier to style when you got massive zzzz’s
    Also many of my sequences are based on starting of with a
    very difficult restricted position pull/ delay reception direct off the throw, such as my direct flying gitus pull.. plus the cool
    positive vibes folks get from each other as they’re jammin’ makes
    all the difference……………..Yak Soon I Hope…..Leaker

  4. Hi Jan.
    As Paul mentions, learn to delay clock spin now, before your brain refuses to let you learn it.. Taking both spins will allow you to work with any throw you ever get and to co-op freely with more jammers. So when someone asks you "Which spin do you take?" you can say "Whatever you’re throwing."
    Also, along the same lines as playing with others, learn to throw good, controlled, high-Z throws– BOTH SPINS. Once again, his will enable you to jam with whomever you want and if they are an old crusty dude like me, they may want mostly clock. . . . not much fun if you can only throw counter. Furthermore, if you have good throws, it makes it much easier for someone to enjoy playing with you.
    You may also want to check out the various DVD’s available such as "Secrets of Pro Disc Freestyle" or "Zen and the Art of Freestyle Frisbee".
    Or, as the suggests, check out these sites: "Check out these other fantastic web resources for learning basic & advanced disc freestyle skills & techniques. While each site has its own exclusive and unique content, be aware that some of the tips are shared between websites. – Tom Leitner’s Award Winning site with tons of information and both beginner and advanced playing tips. – Jake and Matt Gauthier’s site focusing on freestyle skills and techniques for beginning and advanced players. – Dori Yaniv’s Israeli site with great playing tips with photos, in English and Hebrew.

    Good luck and have a great time. And remember, catching is good, dropping is bad. . . . and a throw-away is even worse.


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